WORKING DRAFT – SUBJECT TO CHANGE – WORKING DRAFT
17 Wake Forest University, Health Law & Policy Program
My wife and I own a small business. We're homeowners, we're not chronic deadbeats, we simply
were priced out of the healthcare market in 2010. So, we had to turn to Mission and the charity
care they were providing. Now, they said nothing was going to change and that is not our
experience. … I had gone to the doctor, she wanted me to go over to the hospital to have a test.
The scheduler called me up and asked me for $200 upfront that I had to pay right then, which I
did not have. I explained to her we had been on charity care and she said that was no longer an
option. I had to come up with $200. Then she looked and said okay since you don't have
insurance, I could cut it down to around $100. Same problem, I don't have $100 [so] I can't do
charity care. I had to go around for three months with the people, the caseworkers to help me
out. I was told they no longer have charity care to help me with. So now it's been six months, I
didn't have that test taken, so I guess I'm out of luck. What am I going to do? If there's something
wrong, I [won't] know about it. It seems to be nowhere else for me to turn. … When HCA took it
over, everything [about charity care] changed. The caseworkers told me there's no charity care.
The people, the scheduler for Mission said that there was no charity care. That's the message
they gave me. So, I do not know where to turn to. … The reason they're saying [the CC policy] is
better, it used to be I think 200% of the poverty level. Now it's 400%. Well, that is better but it's
not if you don't have the hundred dollars or whatever you need to do it, it's nonexistent.
Administration Issues
[From a low-income primary care clinic]: When you have someone who doesn't have an address
or is constantly moving around or people that are unstably housed and being kicked out of where
they're being housed, they can often miss the deadline for this paperwork and then they're
deferred for six months from reapplying. Which means, if we want a diabetic with early stage
kidney disease to see a nephrologist and they get denied for this program, we have to wait six
months to send them, at which point they get worse, and maybe they get so worse at that point
we have to send them to the ER for further care. So, … I really wish someone would look into this
charity care program because it has made primary care very difficult to do for a really vulnerable
population.
[Before HCA’s purchase,] we were fortunate to have [help] from Mission financial assistance. …
[W]e were lucky enough to … [have] up to 70% discount on any bill. And if I remember correctly,
it was a piece of cake to get it. You had to fill out a few papers, so forth, but it wasn't a big deal.
But since HCA's taken [over] as a profit outfit, why would they make it easy for a person to get
financial assistance when they can make it hard for them. … [I was] assured that HCA was going
to keep financial assistance. Well, they kept it all right. They keep it in their pocket. It doesn't
take a rocket scientist to figure out if they make it hard enough, the people aren't going to get it,
and they'd make more money. Real simple. I'd rather die in peace. I understand. But I think it's a
terrible, terrible thing. … I used to wave a flag for Mission, but now I've got to jump through seven
hoops and wonder, "Am I going to be lucky or not?" …. So … my main thing is that from nothing
to seven hoops to get financial assistance, it's criminal. It is, pardon my French, damn criminal.
I have been involved with the charity care [policy as a patient]. … Five times [in 2019 I] called the
office, the numbers. They told me that during the transition, it is no longer the way it used to be